Fwd: Re: A heated discussion on 'Race, Gender & the Blues'

Wed May 30 22:06:20 EDT 2012

At least someone in the world knows what the hell influinced the Blues in Chi town and the Mississippi delta.The folk that grew up and live(ed) there certainly don't.For shame on y'all fer not booklearnin about ur own states.Thirty lashes with a wet noodle to ya.
         ignerntly,
                        Mark

I sent this e mail from my outhouse phone.

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From: louisx@MYFAIRPOINT.NET
Sent: 29 May 2012 21:55:20 GMT
To: BLUES-L@LISTSERV.NETHELPS.COM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: A heated discussion on 'Race, Gender & the Blues'

Have you ever been to Memphis and traveled the surrounding area -- Mississippi, Arkansas --
Harri?  It sounds like you haven't.  Because if you go, you will see
how everybody was thrown together into a melting pot of music, white,
black, creole and more. With the river making travel fairly easy, one would have had
to have been deaf not to have been influenced by everything being
played in those parts. And musicians surely are not deaf.

 On Wed, 30 May 2012 00:23:05  0300, Harri Haka  wrote:
I had the priviilige of meeting Willie "Big Eyes" Smith two months
> before he died. We talked about white singers with a black voice e.g.
> Tom Jones. And Charley Pride and Ray Charles doing c&w. I doubt that
> blues musicians were actually influenced by c&w and  all of us can hear
> this on recordings and live shows. To be a smart ass, one might say that
> every musician is influenced by Beethoven. But Chuck Berry gave his
> answer to that question.
> Harri
>
>
> 29.5.2012 6:09, Tom Hyslop kirjoitti:
> > Harri,
> >
> >  Respectfully submitted, your position as stated is simply incorrect.
> >
> >  Every bluesman of a certain age that I have interviewed - including
> > Magic Slim, Phillip Walker, Big Jack Johnson, John Primer, and many
> > others - professed a deep and abiding love for country music. Whether
> > it was an innate feeling for the style or the fact that it was all
> > they heard on the radio, as has been mentioned, does not much matter.
> > Howlin' Wolf cited the yodeling of The Singing Brakeman, Jimmie
> > Rodgers, as the inspiration for his own vocalizations. Mel Brown
> > toured with Tompall Glaser, just as he did with Bobby Bland; Glaser is
> > a country artist. You can look it up. Or you can continue to believe
> > what you want, rather than to face facts.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > tom
> >
> > At 3:34 AM  0300 5/29/12, Harri Haka wrote:
> >> Like I was saying, there was not a general interest for country music
> >> among the wider black audience. It is of course natural for a talent
> >> like B.B. King to have studied all genres including country and jazz.
> >> But does any of this reflect on his actual playing or singing? He has
> >> flirted with U2, Eric Clapton and others in the past years but I hardly
> >> find a c&w influence on any of his recordings. Mississippi John Hurt is
> >> greatly respected but he was a folk singer and story teller with a
> >> natural connection to country music of his time.
> >> Harri
> >>
> >>
> >> 29.5.2012 2:35, jinxblues@aol.com kirjoitti:
> >>>
> >>>     Not wanting to take part in the c&w discussion more than to say
> >>> that
> >>>     there was never a general interest in country music within the
> >>> black
> >>>     community.
> >>>
> >>>     ------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     This is absolutely not true.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     Blues people growing up in the south in the 1930s and 1940s all
> >>> listened to WLAC (Nashville) with its powerful signal.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     B.B.King told me in great detail how he had listen to Gene Autry
> >>> and Red Foley and Jimmy Rogers.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     Mississippi John Hurt's "Let the Mermaids Flirt with me" is
> >>> unmistakably Jimmy Rogers'"All Around the Water Tank" a/k/a "Waiting
> >>> for a Train."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dick Waterman
> >>> 1601 Buchanan Avenue
> >>> Oxford, MS 38655
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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