Fwd: Re: A heated discussion on 'Race, Gender & the Blues'

[Steve Ahola]

Harri:

If you go back to the 20's and 30's country and blues artists often
played the same songs and I believe that they did influence each other a
lot. When we get to the 40's and 50's there was less of a mutual
influence as country became C&W and blues became R&B.  (But it was said
that when Earl Hooker was touring in the south he would show up at C&W
clubs and blow their socks off with his playing.)

Steve Ahola

On 5/29/2012 2:23 PM, Harri Haka wrote:
> I had the priviilige of meeting Willie "Big Eyes" Smith two months
> before he died. We talked about white singers with a black voice e.g.
> Tom Jones. And Charley Pride and Ray Charles doing c&w. I doubt that
> blues musicians were actually influenced by c&w and  all of us can hear
> this on recordings and live shows. To be a smart ass, one might say that
> every musician is influenced by Beethoven. But Chuck Berry gave his
> answer to that question.
> Harri
>
>
> 29.5.2012 6:09, Tom Hyslop kirjoitti:
>> Harri,
>>
>>  Respectfully submitted, your position as stated is simply incorrect.
>>
>>  Every bluesman of a certain age that I have interviewed - including
>> Magic Slim, Phillip Walker, Big Jack Johnson, John Primer, and many
>> others - professed a deep and abiding love for country music. Whether
>> it was an innate feeling for the style or the fact that it was all
>> they heard on the radio, as has been mentioned, does not much matter.
>> Howlin' Wolf cited the yodeling of The Singing Brakeman, Jimmie
>> Rodgers, as the inspiration for his own vocalizations. Mel Brown
>> toured with Tompall Glaser, just as he did with Bobby Bland; Glaser is
>> a country artist. You can look it up. Or you can continue to believe
>> what you want, rather than to face facts.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> tom
>>
>> At 3:34 AM +0300 5/29/12, Harri Haka wrote:
>>> Like I was saying, there was not a general interest for country music
>>> among the wider black audience. It is of course natural for a talent
>>> like B.B. King to have studied all genres including country and jazz.
>>> But does any of this reflect on his actual playing or singing? He has
>>> flirted with U2, Eric Clapton and others in the past years but I hardly
>>> find a c&w influence on any of his recordings. Mississippi John Hurt is
>>> greatly respected but he was a folk singer and story teller with a
>>> natural connection to country music of his time.
>>> Harri
>>>
>>>
>>> 29.5.2012 2:35, jinxblues@aol.com kirjoitti:
>>>>
>>>>     Not wanting to take part in the c&w discussion more than to say
>>>> that
>>>>     there was never a general interest in country music within the
>>>> black
>>>>     community.
>>>>
>>>>     ------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     This is absolutely not true.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Blues people growing up in the south in the 1930s and 1940s all
>>>> listened to WLAC (Nashville) with its powerful signal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     B.B.King told me in great detail how he had listen to Gene Autry
>>>> and Red Foley and Jimmy Rogers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Mississippi John Hurt's "Let the Mermaids Flirt with me" is
>>>> unmistakably Jimmy Rogers'"All Around the Water Tank" a/k/a "Waiting
>>>> for a Train."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dick Waterman
>>>> 1601 Buchanan Avenue
>>>> Oxford, MS 38655
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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