A heated discussion on 'Race, Gender & the Blues'

MARK SCHOSSOW yupduluth@msn.com
Tue May 22 14:22:50 EDT 2012


I guess this mite be a question fer foreigners,It is quite interesting to see how Bluesfolk accross the oceans percieve a U.S. treasure that is homegrown.I would like to let them know that if names were left out on a package of Blues..To say us "caucasions" may be technicality correct but may not have soul¿.Live music is the only way they would know for sure.That mite even be hard to discern. Would a person was ....say 25% african descendacy 75% caucasion only have eh.....so much soul,good enough for a biker bar jam for hat money?Would a white man on bass,another on drums,totally screw up the rest of the band that is of African decent?
     Obviously, we need to put better information on the internet and thru our media.I see these Europeans as making honest opinions.This is the same as saying "Blacks have rhythm, they were bread for slavory,thats why there are better  atheletes".By saying any race is natural at anything. By saying whites are not as good at Blues,your saying blacks are natural at it.Whether its a complimentary referal,or not,its raciest.Here in the U.S. anyway.Ask sharecroppers,victems of the dustbowl,or poverty ridden whites.Racism is an animal that hurts people of all colors,creeds or genders.
    Our news  used to try and be stating all the facts and let readers and watchers decide.
    Another gem.People of color,have outnumbered caucasions since before 2000.Will someone else deal with gender?And if any one man says he knows the answer to that is lying. All U.S. males fear them from 3rd grade on because they ARE different. We....we ,we love them also and if intelligent,respect them.From the 3rd grade on.If you really wanna understand, read Samual Clemons "Huckleberry Finn".Race and gender are explained by that wonderful writer.In a entertaining way
    Not like this writer.I been dancin on nails without shoes here.
          Mark Schossow.

If you dun paid ur dues,
then  you know the Blues.

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From: Ton Wanten
Sent: 22 May 2012 10:19:31 GMT
To: BLUES-L@LISTSERV.NETHELPS.COM
Subject: Re: A heated discussion on 'Race, Gender & the Blues'

IMHO Harri is right.
As a radio "producer", I receive lot's and lot's of music every week.
Intro's often impress me a lot, great guitar playing or harp playing,
after the vocals kick inŠ. Well, I miss something..

Ton
Triple R Blues Radio
The Netherlands

On dinsdag22-05-12 01:48, "Harri Haka" <harri.haka@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

>As a small time European promoter I must say it goes the other way over
>here. Venues would prefer black musicians but not that many are
>available. Seems that a lot of gifted young black musicians shy away
>from the blues and go for hip-hop or rap. On the other hand, many white
>musicians are obsessed with the blues and practice it day in day out.
>Luckily, however, we still have rising stars like Omar Coleman and
>Marquise Knox (to mention a few) who have huge talent. A white musician
>can learn to play technically flawless blues. But when it comes to
>vocals, hardly any of them can capture the feeling, guts and credibility
>of their black colleagues. And in the end, singing is the essence of the
>blues.
>Harri from Finland
>
>  22.5.2012 0:50, mannish kirjoitti:
>> a lot of people shay away from the discussion but I like it as long it
>> does NOT get heated - passionate but no heat
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