ragtime and jazz

Jay Watterworth jaywatterworth@COMCAST.NET
Tue Sep 21 23:04:24 EDT 2010


In his introduction to "Paloma" Mr. Morton talks about this influence.

There are a number of other problems with Jazz, IMHO.  I don't care for the
reliance on Mr. Marsalis and Stanley Couch.  Much jazz after the mid-60s is
dismissed including almost everything truly avant garde (Braxton, Coleman)
and electric (later Miles, fusion).

But it ins nice to have all that jazz to watch and learn about.  It was a
huge undertaking and I am grateful Burns took it on.

Jay

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Hoffman" <stevehoffman@STARPOWER.NET>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: ragtime and jazz


> However, in all those many hours for that "Jazz" documentary, Burns had
> neither the time nor interest to consider the Latin/Hispanic influence
> on American jazz -- that influence is HUGE, in fact Jelly Roll Morton
> himself said that the main difference between ragtime and jazz was that
> for the latter, he added a "Latin tinge" -- but Burns just wasn't aware,
> or didn't care, because he was so focused on the "black" and "white"
> part of the American narrative, he couldn't or wouldn't delve into other
> ethnicities. A major flaw in that series, IMO.
> --Steve Hoffman
>
> hashbb@AOL.COM wrote:
>>  my drummer lent me the Ken Burn's 'Jazz'
>> documentaries. I will say that there is quite a bit
>> of info aboutt he development of Jazz as an idiom.
>> HB
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ann Rabson <ann@ANNRABSON.COM>
>> To: BLUES-L@LISTSERV.NETHELPS.COM
>> Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2010 10:50 am
>> Subject: ragtime and jazz
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>> Valerie says "I'm going to have to study a bit more more about the
>> transformation from ragtime to jazz."
>>
>> There is a boxed set on the history of jazz from the Smithsonian.  The
>> first
>> cut is Scott Joplin playing Maple Leaf Rag and the second one is Jelly
>> Roll
>> Morton playing Maple Leaf Rag.  To me these 2 cuts answer that question
>> beautifully.
>>
>> Ann Rabson
>> www.annrabson.com
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