KBA= Keeping a Blues Musician alive

gtrmac gtrmac@prodigy.net
Sun Sep 12 17:46:35 EDT 2004


Hey guy's .
I find this price thing hard to believe Band's that sit around and blow
smoke . They have been smoking the wrong thing to long . Some people are
proffesional Bull shiters not Proffesionel Musicans. I learned along time
ago not to ever carry on a conversation with a idiot The general public
might not know the difference.
I know there is some who run scams pulling in mony from other places what
ever it may be and say they are making it on their mucial talent just to
mess with other great's mind .Don't believe the hype.
                      Guitar Mac
http://www.guitarmac.com
http://pages.prodigy.net/gtrmac
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Edmonson" <edmoblues@comcast.net>
To: <BLUES-L@LISTS.NETSPACE.ORG>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: KBA= Keeping a Blues Musician alive


> C'mon Larry, be honest...If I thought that Chicago clubs were actually
> paying these amounts, I'd be packing right now.  Currently, _*NONE*_ of
> our SF Bay Area clubs that book mainly local  acts are paying more than
> $600.00, and that's for a weekend night.  It does make it tough for a
> six-piece band like ours (We would really be an eight piece band, but we
> usually can't afford the last two guys.)  As I said in another recent
> post, many national/international artists that live locally are waiting
> in line to get these gigs!  The Boom Boom Room in SF offered us $500.00
> for a weekend night, but would only give us the gig if we refused all
> other work in the area for a month, what a joke!  Some of the local
> clubs that book national talent will pay up to $1200.00 to $1500.00, but
> the guarantee is usually much lower, and you only get above $1,000.00 if
> you get a percentage of the door and have a good night attendance-wise.
>
> When we are traveling, we do, out of necessity get more money, but there
> is a lot of overhead on the road.
>
> If Larry is actually getting paid these amounts, he is doing much better
> than most of the well known, established blues artists with a lifetime
> of performing under their belts.  I doubt that there are many bands out
> there with more experienced players than ours, and their skill at
> playing "real-deal" blues, soul, and R&B is unsurpassed. Between us,
> we've played with (not opened for):
>
> T-Bone Walker, Johnny Clyde Copeland, Clarence Hollimon, Albert Collins,
> Pee Wee Crayton, Otis Redding, Gatemouth Brown, Lowell Fulson, Buddy
> Ace, Freddy King, Gladys Knight, Etta James, Otis Redding, Rufus & Carla
> Thomas, Johnny Otis, James Cotton, Luther Tucker, Syl Johnson, Sir Mack
> Rice, Van Morrison, Maria Muldaur, Luther Ingram, Fontella Bass, Jimmy
> McCracklin, Jimmy Witherspoon, Big Mama Thornton, ZZ Hill, Sonny Rhodes,
> Ike Turner, B. B. King, Etta James, Clarence Carter, Sugar Pie DeSanto,
> Buddy Ace, Buddy Guy, Charlie Musselwhite, Little Jimmy King, Lafayette
> "Thing" Thomas, Frankie Lee, Pine Top Perkins, Carey Bell, Roy Gaines,
> Steve Freund, Chuck Berry, Snooky Pryor, Jimmy Rogers, Steve Freund, The
> Dynatones, Paris Slim, and Rusty Zinn, to name a few.
>
> As far as his heritage somehow entitling him to some special treatment,
> Larry will have to stand in a very long line.  Our drummer's dad is the
> legendary Johnny Otis, but he's never suggested that he should be paid
> more because of it.  (BTW, I left out drummer, Nicky Otis' resume,
> because after playing with his dad's orchestra all of these years, let
> it suffice to say that he has played with everybody.) Oh yeah, BTW, we
> pay all of the band members the same, regardless of race, which should
> be irrelevant.
>
> I agree that we are all grossly underpaid, but let's be honest about the
> money.  We all deserve the kind of money that Larry is talking about,
> and more, but if he is really pulling down that kind of bread in
> Chicago, he needs to stay right where he is, he is already doing far
> better than the national average (sad, but true.)
>
> Steve Edmonson
> edmoblues@comcast.net
> The Jackie Payne-Steve Edmonson Band
> http://www.payne-edmonson.com
>
> Bonni McKeown wrote:
>
> > Here is a letter from Larry Taylor.
> >
> > What's the real blues worth? For myself,  I ask my band to be paid in
> > the range of  $900-1000 for Chicago clubs,  $1800-2500 for regional club
> > gigs, and for festivals $3500-6000,  plus expenses including hotel and
> > travel.  Overseas. I would ask  $3500 plus expenses per concert as an
> > individual, or $10-15,000 plus expenses with my band; that's because of
> > the risks of international travel. Advance deposits will be negotiated
> > individually. There is no reason, given my skill and heritage, why I
> > should not be making this money.   I know that some entertainers get
> > more than $25,000 for a concert. Some of these high paid artists are
> > white; and I feel like we are just getting the scraps.
> >
> >
> >
>
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